You can always move interesting conversation to a wiki-page with an appropriate title and rework it later. It’s a wiki ;)
New date-entries right below the line, please. / entiteling days’ talks makes it easier to find back things later ~~~~~~~
Added the essay spammers to BannedContent. Marked all the WOW Gold pages for deletion. – AlexSchroeder
Extended Captcha protection to all pages. – AlexSchroeder
Software upgrade. :) – AlexSchroeder
We will be meeting in #creole on Thursday, 18-Oct-2007 at 22:00 (CEST) to discuss the upcoming Wikisym 2007 Workshop.
Thanks, Alex. :-) Hope you join us on the IRC meeting later today. – EugeneEricKim
Software upgrade. :) – AlexSchroeder
Hello Folks, I am wondering what is the next step for here. I know I have been absent for a good while, but am intereted in next steps for WikiOhana - Best, MarkDilley
AndreasGohr: Alex, you’re right about the developer forum, so I just opened one at http://www.wikimatrix.org/forum/viewforum.php?id=87
I have another question: you’re writing I’d prefer to delete all discussion on this wiki, including the Talk page. - so you essentially want to have a Wiki on WikiOhana (aka. Wiki Community) without a community? Eg. without any talking. I know you want the Ohana to spread through all wikis, but I’m not sure removing the community aspect from the central site is a good way to do this.
I’m just thinking about it and wondering what this site here can do for the Wiki community as whole. What are the goals of this site? Do we have such goals defined somewhere?
2006-09-07 / entiteling days in talk MattisManzel: A day-entry with a titel is much more likely to be turned into a proper wiki-page. A titel for it existst already. If a conversation of a day turns interesting we can make a new page for it and move it over. That’s what we want, proper pages, isn’t it?
2006-09-06 / slides with the wiki-principles ChristophSauer: When Ward is is giving a speach he is using slides with the wiki principles. Where can i find the original source for that principles online? I just found [1] after quick googling. I guess it’s somewhere on c2 or meatball. I think as a founder the first thing i would like to know is what makes a wiki work. Giving him Wards principles would be a good starter. Could someone point to those principles please? Thanks.
ChuckSmith: http://www.c2.com/doc/wikisym/WikiSym2006.pdf
ChristophSauer: Quite huge - Ok, if there’s no other webpage, then there is now a webpage WikiPrinciples
2006-09-03 / a forum or not a forum
AndreasGohr: First, good to see this site up. What I personally miss and hope to see it at the WikiOhana site is a place to talk to other Wiki developers. I suggested this at WikiSym already: I’d personally prefer a Forum to do such talking instead of a Wiki, but if can’t agree to do that - it would be great if we could at least create some scaffolding somewhere here in the wiki to make it easier to start new discussions.
Just for a bit inspiration how a forum could work out, I’d like to point you to http://www.onecommune.net where the Forum comunitiy is already building their own Ohana. Would be great to have such a living place for Wikis too.
On the problem Radomir mentiones below: This is why dangerous actions like delete should always use a a form - spiders do not follow form buttons.
AlexSchroeder: I agree with using a form instead of a link to change data on the server. I’ll need to find a fix for this.
As for wiki developers talking on a forum: I think that’s not the Wiki Ohana mission, since we’re about founders – not developers. Perhaps you can create a forum on Wiki Matrix for developers, if you’re interested? At least I’m subscribed to the Wiki Matrix forums via RSS feed. And almost all developers are at least somewhat motivated to look at Wiki Matrix every now and then. Looks like the perfect place! Alternatively, let us use a Google Group called WikiDevelopers.
2006-08-30 / braindamaged spider
RadomirDopieralski?: Some braindamaged spider seems to keep hitting the ‘rollback’ and ‘delete this page’ links :(
2006-08-29 / who registered wikiohana.net? Voila!
MattisManzel: One day entry per day, add text at the end of a section for a day and do not be too stict about it all. When answering on a thread some days old for politeness add a timetamp behind your name. The thread will be still relatively on top of the page and can be read without much scrolling. Old stuff needs scrolling, new stuff doesn’t. That’s the idea about it. The first pages of that kind were called “forum” - I picked up the idea on Gründerwiki: Gründer-wiki-forum. Later we named them wiki-forum as forum got confused with a comparably restricted software called “forum” that some wikis (try to) run parallel. There is no reason for not doing that in the wiki directly. When the thing got automatized I changed to name it “Talk”. Like oddwiki-center: talk. Forum still sounds like ‘’forum romanum’’ and as if you’d have to say something intelligent there, which actually makes some people not say a thing at all.
I now started to add little summaries of the day’s talk to the header to find back conversations more easily. Feel free to improve them.
I hope the modules for headers and so on to be installed soon. Looking up who registered wikiohana.net? Voila! MarkDilley - Aloha Mark, well done! (If this goes on like that maybe we should ask for support from the Hawaian Tourism Ministry or whatever ;)
2006-08-28 / Welcome to the wiki world, wiki-ohana!
MattisManzel: Welcome to the wiki world, wiki-ohana! You folks decided to create a wiki, and I congratulate you. It’s a great idea! I hope you will find the wiki way as exhilerating (or mind bending or thrilling) as I found it to be.
I encourage you to welcome the users of your wiki just as I have welcomed you to the wiki-world.
Testing RadomirDopieralski? ‘s welcome founder and it seems to work alright ;) Honestly: Big hooray to who came up with wiki-ohana. It shouldn’t be too difficult to teach the world the word for “family” in Hawaian. I mean, it almost knows the word for “quick” in Hawaian already.
ChristophSauer: Aloha! As soon as Eugene spoke out the word ohana in the OpenSpace? at wikisym 06 somebody registered the domain, and now there is this wiki. I am not sure what and where i should put stuff here, but i guess i simply add this wiki-ohana centered wiki to wiki nodes: http://www.wikicreole.org went online today. The wiki to create a common wiki markup for the wiki ohana.
RadomirDopieralski?: I think it’s plain text for us here. It’s clean. Mattis, this is not my text, I moved it from CommunityWiki?. And now, for the first time in my life: Welcome Mattis, welcome Christoph. Congratulations on your new wiki! Wonder what page we should put the welcoming on?
MattisManzel: 2006-09-08: Good question. If we’re going to be a center-wiki I’d recommend: Make a page called [[ListOfWikis?|list of wikis]]. On that page make a page wiki-ohana. Collect some basic information about this wiki, like wiki-ohana: wiki-node, canonical adress: http://wikiohana.net/, working-language: English, engine: Oddmuse and welcome ourselves on it telling us that we also made us a wiki-homepage on ourselves, the center-wiki for the wiki-family. Maybe somebody answers? You never know unless you try. - K, sorry, that was a loop, sincerely: we’d welcome us on our wiki-node. When a new wiki “comes up on the radar” we make a wiki-node on it with talk at the end, say hello there and point to the home-page for the wiki here on wiki-ohana.